I'll try to be brief, Mr. Chair.
I'll speak to some of the concerns raised by Liberal members. They're saying that the minister hasn't had anything to do with it. Well, it was the testimony of officials that the minister's chief of staff, in fact, was part of the decision-tree part of the conversation. We've heard over and over again from Liberals that they don't send political-exempt staff to committee and that they send the minister instead. If Liberal members are suggesting that the minister's chief come to appear in her place and that the committee then make a decision on whether or not the minister should come after hearing from her chief, I guess we can have that conversation, but I'm doubtful that that's the case. The minister is responsible for what happens in her department, or she ought to be.
Mr. Sorbara took issue with Mr. Genuis's asking questions about Mr. Clark's record as a government appointee. I mean, the lack of curiosity or more like the wilful blindness by folks—I'll say “opportunists”—like Mr. Sorbara doesn't do Canadians any justice.