I think if you look at the numbers, you will see that they are quite a bit lower. They weren't there. I think it was showing maybe around 1% of it. I think it was first announced in 2019, when it was part of the mandate letter to look at setting a target of 5%. That was when we first started talking about the 5% indigenous procurement target.
It is still difficult for lots of businesses with the federal government and federal procurement. I think it needs to be simplified. I think we may need to look at some of the levels of requirements for their contracts. A $100,000 or $150,000 contract requires the same amount of work as a $10 million or $20 million one. Small indigenous businesses, and all smaller businesses in Canada, don't have the resources to do that. I think there are still some struggles.
Also, on some of these other big ones, when we look at the reporting from 2023, on paper it was 6.27% of the value that went to indigenous businesses. In reality, we did not get that.