It's hard for me to say what people had in mind when program funding increased, which was around 2017. We must not forget that this increased funding is temporary and we do not know whether it will last.
I think it came to a point where the organization felt it didn't have the luxury of waiting to see what was going to happen with the temporary programs. That's my impression. We have to make sure that the department is set up to meet its commitments, if that is indeed the kind of project we want.
The centre of expertise was created around 2017-18. At the time, it was already recognized that a centre of expertise was needed to ensure better program compliance.
However, after that, we had to wait until the end of the pandemic, in 2022, to see the arrival of key organizations, whether it be the director general committee or what is called the network of—