Evidence of meeting #144 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was program.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Annie Boudreau  Comptroller General of Canada, Treasury Board Secretariat
Nicole Thomas  Executive Director, Costing, Charging and Transfer Payments, Treasury Board Secretariat
Jerry V. DeMarco  Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development, Office of the Auditor General
Nicolas Blouin  Director, Office of the Auditor General

1:05 p.m.

Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development, Office of the Auditor General

Jerry V. DeMarco

The stated intent of a range of governments over the past 30 years has been to achieve an emissions reduction target. We failed on all of them. Does that mean the measures aren't working individually? Some of them are working well and some of them aren't, but they're not adding up to enough. That's my main point. If we look at the last few years of emissions, they're hovering around the same amount. Since COVID, they've been hovering around the same amount. This means that, for over 30% of that 40% to 45% target for 2030, there are now only six years left to get all of that 30%-plus in reductions.

The point I'm trying to make is this: To date, the results achieved from all these measures have not added up to enough. More effective measures and probably just more measures will be needed to achieve the goal of 40% to 45% by 2030 and net zero by 2050. We need to redouble our efforts to fight climate change.

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

Has the government initiated a receptivity to doing so?

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

I'm sorry, Mr. Sousa. That is past our time.

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

It is a yes-or-no answer.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

We're quite a bit past our time.

Mr. DeMarco and Mr. Blouin, thanks for being with us. You've shown why you're two of my favourite witnesses on the other side, in public accounts. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

Very quickly, colleagues, we have a couple of budgets to approve. You received copies of them the other day. I see thumbs-up all around. There are two budgets—one for grants and contributions, and one for Canada Post.

Thank you very much.

By this Friday at noon, please have witnesses for indigenous procurement. I haven't received anything since the motion was passed. It's Friday at noon, please.

Then there's Canada Post. We're doing that on Thursday. We received 20 recommendations. Our wonderful analysts have grouped a bunch together. I'm asking you to please take a look at the recommendations put forward by the analysts, who bunched them together. Be prepared. Hopefully, after chatting among yourselves, we can reduce those so we can get through the report on Thursday.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

With that, we are adjourned.