Government Operations Committee on Nov. 19th, 2024

[The Chair, Conservative, Kelly McCauley]

I'm sorry, Mr. Genuis. Excuse me.

Go ahead, Mr. Long.

[Wayne Long, Liberal, Saint John—Rothesay, NB]

Chair, was this on the budget, or was this on the agenda? This is not related to the budget.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Can you guys learn the rules, please?

[The Chair, Conservative, Kelly McCauley]

It doesn't have to be related to the budget. I stated that we'd go into committee business at the end. We did that, and we did not adjourn, so we're still in committee business.

Mr. Genuis, you have the floor, please.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Thank you, Chair.

Look, the minister who was here wouldn't defend Mr. Boissonnault—

[Wayne Long, Liberal, Saint John—Rothesay, NB]

I have a point of order.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

—and it seems these Liberal MPs are using fake points of order to try to defend Mr. Boissonnault.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kelly McCauley]

I'm sorry to interrupt, Mr. Genuis, but we have a point of order.

[Wayne Long, Liberal, Saint John—Rothesay, NB]

Chair, I'd like to challenge your ruling, please.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kelly McCauley]

Certainly.

Mr. Clerk, call the vote.

[The Clerk]

The question is whether or not the committee would like to sustain the chair's ruling.

Mr. Chair, we have five yeas and five nays, so you must break the tie.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kelly McCauley]

I will sustain my decision.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 6; nays 5)

Mr. Genuis, please continue.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Thank you, Chair.

This is striking, that—

[Some hon. members]

Oh, oh!

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I'm sorry.

[An hon. member]

We need you to talk a little quieter. It's the mic....

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

It's so striking, but I'll try to contain myself. Thank you.

The Liberal Minister of Indigenous Services is unwilling to defend Randy Boissonnault over this issue of indigenous identity fraud, yet you have Liberals who are trying to—

[Charles Sousa, Liberal, Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON]

Excuse me, Chair. What is the motion?

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

—avoid the discussion of this issue.

[Charles Sousa, Liberal, Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON]

I have a point of order, sir.

Is there a motion? I don't know what he's talking about.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kelly McCauley]

He read the motion into the record.

[Charles Sousa, Liberal, Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON]

I didn't quite understand that motion. I didn't quite hear it.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Then why did you challenge the chair over it if you didn't hear the motion?

[Charles Sousa, Liberal, Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON]

Because we're not in committee business.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kelly McCauley]

We are in committee business and I have rules....

Colleagues, please, let's address this.