Okay. Thank you for that.
At what point does the government get out of the business completely so that it's indigenous-led? I mean, this is what you're talking about, and I just want to say that identity is not owned by first nations people, for sure. I have status children. Their children will have a lesser status because I'm not indigenous. That's how it works. That means you can eventually get to a generation where you don't have status, and to me, this is the problem. The problem is that the government is involved. You're talking about getting out, but when?