Thank you.
I want to proceed to our other two witness groups who were, I think, talking in a similar way about the other barriers that exist for indigenous businesses.
I am reflecting on this. The government says they want indigenous procurement. However, if they make procurement opportunities hard to access for new businesses, small businesses, businesses in rural areas and businesses run by people without political connections, we are going to have low numbers in practice, even if the government tries to massage the numbers in various ways.
Do you agree with that assessment, in general? What steps can we take to ensure procurement is more accessible for new businesses, small businesses, businesses located outside the national capital and businesses run by people without political connections, so that we're truly democratizing the process here?
Mr. Carignan is first. Then we'll go online.