I thank the member for his question.
I would like to add some clarification to the minister's answer by using the example that was mentioned—the Canadian warships.
Yes, we are doing very specific things to contain costs and to stay within the current budget envelopes. We have meetings with the shipyards and with the Royal Canadian Navy to review the situation, because a lot of these costs stem from needs that we must understand. We also have to look at the state of inflation. We must also understand the technology and how often it needs to be updated. There are a lot of things to consider. I can confirm that we have meetings to review these issues.
For example, we are currently holding meetings to refine the design of the models. It is also important to understand that these are unique and first-class models, and we have all learned new lessons from this exercise.
So it's not easy to put into one budget envelope what the costs are going to be, what the timelines are going to be, and what's going to be the most cost-effective for Canada, but we're trying to do that.
Let me add that we are currently in direct discussions with our British and Australian colleagues. They're doing the same project as we are in terms of the hull, but it's very different in terms of the combat systems. We have representatives who visit them and we consult with them. We try to learn as much as possible from their experiences.