Well, I think the Vancouver shipyard isn't much different from the Irving shipyard in terms of the challenges it's facing. They will be facing escalations for raw materials and services, in some cases due to COVID, and that impact will be across the board in the NSS.
I think one of the best things that can be done is for us as a nation to look at the escalator that the Department of National Defence has for these types of things. It has contingencies built into the programs. You've probably heard about that, but it is unlikely, in my view, that these contingencies would provide enough cover to be able to absorb the kinds of inflationary measures we're seeing right now.
In my view, if parliamentarians wanted to help out the two shipyards and the NSS program in general, you would ask Treasury Board to look very hard at escalators that are outside of the program itself, meaning that the program would not absorb the burden of the escalations we're seeing, especially in terms of inflation, for example.