Yes. As I mentioned earlier, it's difficult for me to comment on those numbers that are being provided because I don't know precisely how they come up with them. I don't know exactly what they contain, but I think in a general sense.... As I said, I can't comment on that $77-billion number or that $60-billion number for ships that are not going to be built for 20 or 30 years. There are so many factors that go into that. If I knew that....
What I would say is that the effects of inflation are real, and they certainly don't help.