You did get some questions from one of my colleagues regarding the diversity in shipbuilding and the trades. Along those lines, we have out west here some of the best training institutes, such as the British Columbia Institute of Technology. It's a premier institution that teaches pipefitting and welding. A lot of diversity in the trades has been introduced there already.
Maybe you can speak to our academic institutions like that. Are you and your union engaged with academic institutions in the future of the shipbuilding industry?