Quickly, I want to get back to the public accounts. We show a $1.4-trillion interest-bearing debt, and we hear the government talk about lowest net debt-to-GDP ratio compared to the G7, but when we consider the gross debt, if you take out the government counting CPP and QPP assets that are already committed for seniors.... When you take the gross stat, we're fourth of the G7 and 25 or 29 out of the OECD. Do you think we should be using the gross stat, considering this money in the CPP and QPP is money set aside for seniors?
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