Just to finish this, I want to make sure that we thank you for your service. Really and truly the unsung heros of the pandemic were public servants. They delivered services. They came to work through COVID and made sure that they took care of Canadians. I can't say enough to all of you and all of your members about that incredible contribution. It's historic. It doesn't go without being recognized. We know you're dealing with the fallout later, with passports and these things. I do appreciate your being there.
What can you see as the risks to the Canadian public that arise from increasing reliance on outsourcing?
I'll go to you, Ms. Girash, for 30 seconds, and then I'll go to Ms. Carr or Mr. McCarthy.