Thank you very much.
I will also speak in English.
What we need are modern hiring policies that create efficient timelines for hiring so that it's not easier for managers to hire contractors. We also need to break the continued dependence on contractors, because it creates a vicious cycle where the knowledge and skills are never transferred to the public service. This creates a reliance on keeping those contracts alive, such as with Phoenix. We need to modernize the IT procurement process by investing in IT expertise in-house and have a stronger control on IT spending. It's also time for a major shift in the outsourcing policy of the federal public service. Your committee can help us improve our public services while saving billions of dollars in runaway costs for outsourcing.
If you permit me, with Indigenous Services, at least if we did the hiring inside, we could make sure that those jobs were actually going to first nations people, using the public service criteria for equity employment hiring.