Four more minutes? That's great.
If you look at the tenders for ATIP officer temporary help agency work, you will see tenders for two, three and four years. This is not temporary help agency work. This is work that indicates that the staffing envelope for that work or the staffing in place for those departments is not sufficient to meet demand.
Yet our members also tell us that they could, as Ms. Carr has said, make more money in the private sector, and if they went to the private sector, they could also pick and choose the files they work on, so they wouldn't have the difficult files that an ATIP officer often has to work on.
We're ending up with mixed workplaces, with public sector workers and temp agency workers working side by side. We're ending up with inefficient processes for access to information processing, and we're ending up with pay discrepancies. None of this is serving the public or serving what that legislation is meant to do.