Thank you for that, Madam Carr.
Previously, in another life as a consular officer, I completed that passport training myself, so I know how rigorous it is.
What I think you're referring to, Madam Carr, is another quote from the former parliamentary budget officer. I'm going to read that here. It is very much in alignment with some of the comments you have made here today. Perhaps you can support this quote and even provide more information around it. It goes back to your comments about the band-aids.
This quote from him was incredibly alarming. Former parliamentary budget officer Kevin Page said, “There is no strategic human resource plan you know for the Government of Canada. There's no evidence whether or not we've made really good hiring decisions with the significant increase in the complement of the public service.”
There is no human resource plan, Madam Carr. It's unbelievable to me that, after seven years in government, this government has not determined how to effectively determine the human resource organizational structure of a single department, never mind all the shortfalls we're seeing.
Can you comment on this quote, please? Perhaps you could expand upon your statement in your opener about the necessity to stop with the band-aids to get value for money for Canadians through better organization, structuring and planning in our federal government.