Thank you, Mr. Chair.
In response to Mrs. Kusie's most recent statement, I'm going to quote from former Conservative Prime Minister Kim Campbell:
It is quick and easy to attack, to make an accusation, true or false, and disparage someone. Answering and refuting always takes more time. There is an old saying that a lie is halfway around the world before the truth can get its pants on.
I think one thing that is incredibly misleading is this claim that it could have cost $250,000 to create the ArriveCAN app. That's basically, to me, like saying, I have spent two years creating the best possible sports car. I invested tons of research into it. I made 70 upgrades to the car. I tested it at a level that it could run on every racetrack on every surface in the world to meet the highest safety standards. Then someone, two years later, comes along and builds the core of the car, never having had to actually drive by anybody, never having to meet any safety standard, and saying it's the same thing.
Even the people who ran these companies do not suggest it could have cost $250,000. They even admit that they built the front end of an app. They copied the front end of an app, with no back-office link to the CBSA's system, with no security with respect to vaccinations that was required for multiple jurisdictions, etc.
My question for the CIO of the CBSA is, can you please tell me, is it true that you could have built this app for $250,000?