Okay.
Ms. Clarke, I want to say I'm certainly a fan of your work and of your articles. As the new shadow minister for the Treasury Board, I am very interested in value for money. I certainly share your quandary in the existing situation, which is a lack of talent within the public service and therefore the use of what are probably overpriced consulting firms in an effort to compensate for that lack of inherent information and capacity, yet at the same time the recognition of the time and investment to make the transition and, as Ms. Luelo pointed out, the lack of talent available in Canada at this time.
You referenced the United Kingdom, which my colleague Mr. Johns mentioned briefly. Can you expand a little upon their system for this transition from consulting firms to inherent capacity, infinite capacity, and what that might look like based on their model?