I wouldn't say dramatic cuts. It's true that the number of full-time equivalents went down from 2012-13 to, I think, 2014-15. It went down by a few percentage points. That doesn't necessarily have to translate into cuts to Canadians if the government, in reducing the number of FTEs, decides to reduce its operations in some very specific areas—for example, letting some programs sunset. It doesn't necessarily mean that services to the population that we expect to get as Canadians will themselves be cut. However, it's sure that if you reduce the number of FTEs, something has to give at some point. It may not be direct services to Canadians. It might be grants and contributions to some groups or some sectors. It can be internal services that the public service provides to itself. However, it's obvious that something has to give.
On December 1st, 2022. See this statement in context.