I think a good example is Supply Nation in Australia. They created an indigenous organization that has done exactly what we're promoting today: creating an indigenous procurement institute. In the first year, when they targeted 3%, they achieved 9%. They achieved higher targets when they put the department's targets in the public realm, and this is what they are achieving on an annual basis. It was accountability by departments, to each other, that prompted everybody to get something done.
Unless there are consequences to not achieving targets, there won't be anybody wanting to take drastic steps to ensure indigenous businesses achieve procurement opportunities. For 35 years, we've been talking about procurement opportunities for indigenous businesses. It's the frontline managers who develop the RFPs that exclude indigenous businesses. When you have an indigenous business that's actually eligible, they will go with what they know. That's a non-indigenous business.
That is the big problem, right there.