Minister, we understand that there are times when we don't have internal capacity and the government needs to turn to external help, but these should be of last resort, not the government's first call. The problems here are coming from excessive use of costly outsourcing, which leads to higher costs and lower-quality services. We know that public service professionals in the public service are focused on giving taxpayers value and delivering the vital services that Canadians rely on.
Do you actually think this amount of outsourcing of government work is appropriate and that good-paying union jobs within the government are not worth pursuing instead?