—increase, this runaway ship. A fourfold increase just to these expensive firms is actually not consistent. It wasn't like that 20 years ago. It's becoming consistent. This is one of the recommendations that certainly the NDP is going to make—to stop the runaway train. This is hard for morale, but it's also a high cost to taxpayers. It's not the same as 20 years ago. They're literally embedded now in government. We hear of consultants working side by side with public servants.
I guess my question to you is this: Are you going to stop the runaway train, or are you going to invest in public servants to do the job?