That's perfect. Thank you very much, Madam President.
I want to turn to our TBS officials.
Since 2015, we've seen 60,000 full-time employees hired for the public service, and we've invested an additional $20 billion into our public service since 2015. I know that one of my colleagues likes to paint the picture that we are investing in consultants to the detriment of investments in the public service, but I would say that the numbers show that it's quite the opposite: hiring 60,000 full-time employees in the public service and a $20-billion additional spend since 2015.
My question is for the officials. Some are suggesting that outsourcing is out of control. What do the numbers show from your vantage point?