Here's the way to answer that: Whistle-blower protection would provide a tremendous amount of additional information about what is really going on. In the case of Phoenix, there's absolutely no question, in my mind, that Phoenix would not have been allowed to continue anywhere near the rollout date. It would have been canned long before that if senior leaders in the government had known what was going on. There were extraordinary efforts made to keep all of that information under wraps, and that was done successfully.
I would also observe that because we still don't have good whistle-blower protection, we don't know what's going on with Phoenix today. I am extremely skeptical about what I see going on. I have already explained the lack of progress in fixing basic functional problems. I'm skeptical about what I see going on with the pay centre. I don't think the government has learned lessons from Phoenix, and therefore it has not changed the management system. We have the same system that produces disasters. It is perfectly designed to produce more of them, because we don't know what's going on.