As I said to your colleague about half an hour ago, I have no direct knowledge except for the public knowledge that is in books, articles and such, but there is one thing that I can remember. In one instance, McKinsey got a contract with National Defence about harassment and sexual misconduct. They proposed a solution, and one person who I think is extremely credible, Judge Louise Arbour, said that what McKinsey was proposing would not work at all. In that instance, they were not providing value, and I'm not the one saying it. Judge Arbour is a very, very competent person, much more competent than I am.
That's the only instance I can provide, and I have not read that report. I am just reporting what Ms. Arbour said.