The culture of secrecy is enforced by McKinsey itself. They have the clients agree to that secrecy. I don't think they could exist without that secrecy.
That secrecy, in turn, is what's causing the problem. We are here today because of that secrecy. We don't know what's going on. We ask questions—in Quebec, in Ottawa or elsewhere—but we never get answers. That's why I say that secrecy is the worst problem.
Listening to my colleague, couldn't we enforce some sort of disclosure when we sign a contract? As a consultant with the government, we have never had anything secret about our clients or what we were saying to the government. If someone asked the government what we told them or what documents we gave them, there was no restriction to that. Why is there such restriction with McKinsey?