Thank you very much, Mr. Chair, and thank you to our witnesses for joining us today.
Mr. Hutton, I'm going to ask you my first question. Today, in response to what I'll call my colleague's badgering about whether or not your appearance at this committee is relevant, you stated that you thought a conversation around the strengthening of whistle-blower protections was in fact very relevant to the conversation that we're having here today.
I just want to reiterate whether you think that if there were stronger whistle-blower protections, the out-of-control spending on high-priced consultants with dubious practices around the world would have come to light sooner, both with regard to the Phoenix pay system that you've spoken about publicly and also with regard to the IRCC departmental staff who came forward to provide some insight as to what was happening with the McKinsey contract.