Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you, Minister.
I will build on MP Kusie's questions.
There's a basic problem with McKinsey. Part of their business model—as we all know—is that they work for everybody. Some consulting companies say that they only do work for one client within a particular industry. The issue with McKinsey, and part of their selling proposition, is this: Within a particular industry, they are working for everybody and, perhaps, with the regulators, at the same time. They are gaining operational knowledge about how some companies operate, which informs how other companies operate.
That may be okay in certain cases, but it is a problem when we have issues of conflict of interest and security. In fact, aspects of operational culture and approaches in the Canadian military are not something we want learned by a third party that is then consulting with foreign militaries.
I want to ask you this, very specifically: Can you tell us which other countries have retained McKinsey to do work for their defence departments?