Mr. Wojo Zielonka (Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Department of Public Works and Government Services) at the Government Operations and Estimates Committee

Thank you, Minister.

I'll just comment that, because those pension plans are separate entities, they are required to essentially reimburse the government for the cost of accommodations. That's what that charge is. In essence, the $9.9 million is their reimbursing us for the space that they're using.

The plans are a separate entities in themselves.