I totally understand, but these are hearings about McKinsey. That's why I have to ask you these questions. You can feel free to say you don't have any information.
With respect to the contracts, I understand and in fact sympathize very much with your views related to cleaners, because that would be a core function employees would normally be called upon to perform. The contracts with McKinsey were, for example, for benchmarking services, which are not core functions of the Department of National Defence.
Would you agree that there's a difference when the Department of Defence is dealing with something that would be outside the core function of employees, a difference between cleaning services and benchmarking services?