First, thank you both for being here at the committee and for your service to Canada in your public life, working for Canada.
I'll start with you, Mr. Wernick, if I could. In your role as Clerk of the Privy Council, and head of the federal public service, was there ever a conversation between you and the Prime Minister, or between you and any minister about using third party contracting services to implement parts of the government's agenda?