Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I want to thank both of you for joining us today. It was great testimony. Also, I read through the documents that were provided to us, and I appreciate your expertise on this issue.
Last Wednesday, when asked by Ms. Vignola whether if he were to start over again he would have blown the whistle, Mr. Sabourin stated that he would have but perhaps in another way. He mused that he would put everything in an envelope and send it to the media because he felt that the system had let him down and abandoned him.
Here we are today discussing this issue at a time when, very recently, the media has reported on receiving information from someone at CSIS alleging foreign interference in our elections. Sadly, it would appear that the Prime Minister is more seized with finding out who that individual was or is, rather than the nature of the allegations.
In her testimony and a written submission, Ms. Forward states, “Legislation alone will not protect whistle-blowers. The overriding factor for success is culture.”
I shared in the previous panel that I am very familiar with an old saying that culture eats strategy for breakfast. I'm not sure if it eats legislation for breakfast, but I'm wondering if you could share with us your thoughts on how we change the culture in the public service.