To answer your question, we released an economic and fiscal outlook in March, just before the budget. In that economic and fiscal outlook, we estimate that the debt-servicing costs—this was before the budget—will increase to about $46 billion by 2027-28. It's highly contingent on the movement of interest rates, obviously, and on the fiscal path.
Because that was before the budget, and the budget included net new spending, the real figure right now, if we were to update that, would probably be slightly higher than $46 billion in public debt charges by 2027-28.