How do we move forward? I'm going to go back to that, Mr. Shea. How do we get a pathway through this?
Obviously, I think we need to study this terrible policy that was created by the Conservatives, which protects Liberals and Conservatives when they are in government from getting information to the committee, to MPs and to the public.
How do we move forward in terms of the stalemate we're in right now at this committee in trying to get access to the information without tearing down government by requesting 220,000 pages to get to the bottom of what's going on here?