That's right.
An order was adopted that says we are entitled to these documents, yet I have here a note to Mr. Mackinnon from Maia. She was informing Mr. Mackinnon, who is still at the PCO under this branch that is here today. I'll read it again. It says, “The government considers it non-binding if Parliament does. If government doesn't produce documents as ordered by the House, then the matter can be escalated in a number of different ways, including as far as finding the government is in contempt, a minister or official being called to the bar, a non-confidence vote”. This is the same kind of scenario as last June with Iain Stewart being called to the bar. As my colleague, Mr. Barrett, pointed out, this was a conversation with someone who is still in the PCO.
Are you on the same page as Paul Mackinnon? Do you have meetings with Mr. Mackinnon in terms of determining where your direction comes from? If you are on the same page as Mr. Mackinnon, then the decisions of this committee are not binding. It's very clear to me from this email where the PCO takes their direction. It's not from this committee. It's not from parliamentarians. It's from the government. It's very clear by this document here.
I think anyone from any party, in particular the government, is obstructing democracy by saying that we would not be entitled to these documents. Yet, it seems that this is what is going on at the PCO. Again, I remind all opposition members that we were the ones, on this side of the House, who made the decision to have these documents come from the government in a completely unredacted form and in both official languages.
Mr. Chair, I'm going to take this time now to present another motion, if I may.