Just to interrupt you there, that's an interesting thought experiment.
If this Prime Minister is responsible for debt that led to about half of the debt servicing costs.... You say it could be a little less than that, so let's say that we're paying $20 billion to $23 billion in debt servicing costs associated with this Prime Minister's debt. That's the equivalent to doubling employment insurance or doubling the value of maternity leave for everyone. We could be doing that, let's say, instead of paying debt servicing costs.