The comments related to transparency related to the fact that when the government announces investments in digital services or IT transformation, it often announces the numbers overall, allocating millions or hundreds of millions of dollars to improve digital services and upgrade IT systems. It's very difficult for us, for anybody in fact, to determine the part that is allocated to maintaining or upgrading the back office systems—for example, the hardware that makes everything happen—versus the amounts that are spent on improving or digitizing services.
That's what we meant by “transparency”. Departments don't seem to track these numbers distinctly. They see it as one big bundle.