Evidence of meeting #82 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cbsa.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

David Yeo  President and Founder, Dalian Enterprises Inc.
Colin Wood  President, CORADIX Technology Consulting Ltd.
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Aimée Belmore

4:30 p.m.

President, CORADIX Technology Consulting Ltd.

Colin Wood

That is the task authorization request from CBSA for firm price deliverables for the Botler AI project.

4:30 p.m.

Bloc

Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Did you contribute to the Botler AI project?

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

You're muted again, Mr. Wood.

4:30 p.m.

President, CORADIX Technology Consulting Ltd.

Colin Wood

I'm sorry for that, Mr. Chair.

Regarding this task authorization and the work with Botler AI, we were the prime contract holder. The resources, including Ritika Dutt, were provided to us by GC Strategies, which was in partnership with Botler AI.

4:30 p.m.

Bloc

Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

If GC Strategies provided the resources, why was CBSA sent an invoice on Dalian's letterhead, not GC Strategies'? At least one invoice appears on your letterhead.

4:30 p.m.

President, CORADIX Technology Consulting Ltd.

Colin Wood

I think it's important to understand, and this is probably a question for GC Strategies on their contractual relationship with Botler AI. Our contract to provide these deliverables was through GC Strategies. We invoiced CBSA and paid GC Strategies, which paid Botler AI.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Thank you, Mr. Wood.

Thank you, Ms. Vignola.

Mr. Johns, go ahead, please, for six minutes.

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

Maybe you can explain something again. What is your relationship with Kristian Firth of GC Strategies, Mr. Wood?

Can you elaborate on how often you did business with Mr. Firth in GC Strategies?

4:35 p.m.

President, CORADIX Technology Consulting Ltd.

Colin Wood

GC Strategies is a subcontractor that we have done work with from time to time.

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

For how long has that been?

4:35 p.m.

President, CORADIX Technology Consulting Ltd.

Colin Wood

The first arrangement we were in was back in 2020, I believe.

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

Do you have a personal relationship with Mr. Firth?

4:35 p.m.

President, CORADIX Technology Consulting Ltd.

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

In Mr. Morv's testimony at committee last Thursday, he cited that Mr. Firth boasted to them that he had dirt on various senior federal public servants who were responsible for awarding government contracts.

Did Mr. Firth ever share anything like that with you about his connections in the public service?

4:35 p.m.

President, CORADIX Technology Consulting Ltd.

Colin Wood

I don't know anything about that.

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

Okay.

Let me get this straight.

You submitted information about Ms. Dutt and Mr. Morv around the task authorization. Are you saying you're not responsible because you subbed it out to Mr. Firth? Mr. Firth possibly gave you the wrong information about them by inflating their expertise.

Are you saying you're not responsible even though it's your contract?

4:35 p.m.

President, CORADIX Technology Consulting Ltd.

Colin Wood

No, that's not what I said.

We are accepting responsibility. That was our mistake. We have a quality management system in place. We take these matters very seriously. In a case where we're working with a third party, which is what this was, we don't engage their subcontractors and we don't engage their consultants. We have non-solicitation agreements and we would never reach out to GC Strategies' contractors. We can only accept that those CVs are valid.

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

Okay. Why not? When you see a situation like this next time, will you be doing your due diligence, given that...?

4:35 p.m.

President, CORADIX Technology Consulting Ltd.

Colin Wood

Yes, Mr. Chair.

To the member, we are an ISO 9001:2015 certified company, which means that our processes are certified. We have a very strict quality management system. We are in the process right now of examining our processes—

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

I bet you are.

4:35 p.m.

President, CORADIX Technology Consulting Ltd.

Colin Wood

—and we will be making changes.

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

Here's the thing. Does Mr. Firth come to you and say, “Hey, I have a solution. Oh, what's the problem?”—

4:35 p.m.

President, CORADIX Technology Consulting Ltd.

Colin Wood

I'm not—

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

—or is more like you go to Mr. Firth and say you need help with something? Does he—

4:35 p.m.

President, CORADIX Technology Consulting Ltd.

Colin Wood

I can—