Evidence of meeting #83 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was work.
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Conservative
Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON
Answer the question. Let's start with that.
Is it yes or no?
Do you agree that these are your words that you uttered to Botler on November 8, 2019, bragging about your influence on government officials?
Do you accept that or not, yes or no?
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
Thanks very much.
Mr. Sousa, go ahead for five minutes, please.
You might be on mute, Mr. Sousa.
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The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Aimée Belmore
Mr. Sousa, is there any possibility that your headset is muted?
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Liberal
Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON
Can you hear me? Okay.
Mr. Firth, you say you've been at this for over 20 years.
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Liberal
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Liberal
Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON
Have there been various bureaucrats and civil servants over that period of time?
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Liberal
Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON
Have you been doing it the same way throughout, using that process?
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Liberal
Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON
You've been a qualified vendor since 2015 under this scenario.
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Liberal
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Liberal
Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON
When you deal with them.... Understandably with Botler you didn't have a fee. You didn't establish a fee with Botler.
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Liberal
Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON
You do establish fees with other subcontractors, and then you go forward?
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Partner, GC Strategies
Yes.
As I mentioned previously, there's no flat number. You have a bill rate for the client to work with and you have a pay rate for the resource. The difference between them is the margin, or the fee.
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Liberal
Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON
Botler made reference.... I don't know who they're talking about. Are you the ghost, or is that somebody else?
Who's this ghost contractor?