That is a lie told to this committee. Everyone knows it, and we have our team here behind us. Everyone knows that it was his decision to make, not mine.
Others could also confirm that, when he made the decision to eliminate Deloitte, he said it was because the president said that no one could work with Deloitte because of a project involving the CBSA assessment and revenue management branch that was not going well.
The night he made the decision, I called the Deloitte partner to tell him that he would not be selected because of the problems with that project. He told me that my colleague Sandy Kyriakatos, the chief data officer at the CBSA, also told him that she wanted to select Deloitte.