That was probably a very wise move on your part, because the Auditor General is expanding her review. It started off as ArriveCAN, but because of the story from The Globe and Mail in early October and her concerns about the same players and the same government agencies, she has expanded that review.
More importantly, the RCMP are investigating not ArriveCAN, but the CBSA—all the employees, all of the executives, including both you, Mr. MacDonald, and you, Mr. Utano—as well as other government agencies and the three companies at issue right now—GC Strategies, Dalian and Coradix—as to what truly transpired, as to whether or not there was some criminality, all right? I can understand why you'd want to have counsel.
Putting that aside, both of you, in your opening statements, were very quick to impugn the credibility of the whistle-blowers—I call them the whistle-blowers, the brave two entrepreneurs from Botler AI—and you were prepared to actually throw the press under the bus, particularly The Globe and Mail.
I just want you to be aware, sir, because you used the phrases a lot—that these are allegations and you're here to tell the truth—so I'm going to give you the facts.
What you need to be aware of, sir, is that The Globe and Mail, which started this investigation, analyzed thousands and thousands of pages of documents, released pursuant to access to information requests, that came from the CBSA. The Globe also reviewed extensive documentation compiled by the entrepreneurs themselves, including contracting records and audio recordings of their conversations with IT consultants and both you, Mr. MacDonald, and you, Mr. Utano. We have hours and hours of conversations that are actually recorded, so in my view these aren't allegations. This is fact. This is evidence.