I will, by extension, claim that Mr. MacDonald was lying to this committee. I know you have an aversion to using that language, probably as a result of some legal advice, so I'm not going to push you on it. Clearly, you claim now, under oath, that your version is accurate.
Did you seek advice from him on your initial upcoming testimony at this particular committee? He claims you were very nervous, emotional and, at times, crying. You were desperate to get some guidance from him, even though he had been removed from CBSA for close to a year at that point. You wanted guidance on how to testify at OGGO.
Is that correct?