Government Operations Committee on Dec. 4th, 2023

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order, Chair.

The NDP members had long said they supported transparency for this contract. They just flip-flopped and voted—

[Irek Kusmierczyk, Liberal, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

Mr. Chair, that's not a point of order.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Let me finish—

[The Chair, Conservative, Kelly McCauley]

I'll decide, but thanks for the advice from the sidelines.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

You've talked a lot here, Mr. Kusmierczyk.

[Irek Kusmierczyk, Liberal, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

It's not a point of order.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

The NDP members have just completely contorted and flipped themselves over to vote with the government to bury these contracts. Now, they're proposing, apparently, a new motion, which is to try to save face in the midst of this cover-up.

We don't have copies—

[Irek Kusmierczyk, Liberal, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

Mr. Chair, this is not a point of order. It's not appropriate, Mr. Chair.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

—of that motion. The member is saying he's reading it out, but he's very clearly not starting from the beginning.

[Irek Kusmierczyk, Liberal, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

Mr. Chair, my colleague will.... Mr. Chair. I have a point of order.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

This is a—

[The Chair, Conservative, Kelly McCauley]

Let me interrupt for just one moment, Mr. Genuis.

Mr. Kusmierczyk—

[Irek Kusmierczyk, Liberal, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

This is clear. This is black and white.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kelly McCauley]

—let him finish and then you can speak.

I'm going to follow up on another issue on this.

[Irek Kusmierczyk, Liberal, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

After the amendment, he will have the time to argue whether he is for or against it. This is not the time, Mr. Chair. It's a point of order.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kelly McCauley]

Get to the point, Mr. Genuis. Then, I'm going to—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Mr. Chair, I'm very familiar with the rules. I would like to know what this motion is. We have not received a copy of it. He's—

[Irek Kusmierczyk, Liberal, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, he's reading the motion—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Can you respect the chair, Mr. Kusmierczyk? I've been recognized and you haven't.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kelly McCauley]

Mr. Kusmierczyk, let him finish his point of order. Then I will chime in on the issue and we can continue.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

You can read out municipal policies that have nothing to do with this some other time, but—

[The Chair, Conservative, Kelly McCauley]

Please, Mr. Genuis, can you return to the point?

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Yes, Chair.

Mr. Masse was very clearly not reading from the beginning of the motion. We need the full text of the motion, ideally in writing. He's provided no notice of it. He's not obliged to do that, but we need to be able to have the full text of the motion.

The NDP members just defeated our call for transparency for the disclosure of the contracts. They could have proposed an amendment. They didn't—

[Ryan Turnbull, Liberal, Whitby, ON]

That is not a point of order.

[Irek Kusmierczyk, Liberal, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

Mr. Chair, this is beyond the pale.