Yes, it's absolutely still debt.
I'm hopeful—and, potentially, not naive—the nuance is that if this is the new management approach for the Government of Canada, and every time they make a new spending decision they say, “Okay, this is going to result in some sort of productive asset that's going to provide a stream of long-term benefits,” then that is certainly different from the way the Government of Canada managed its money up to this point internally. If that's going to be the way they're going to manage things, then I hope they would convey that and explain that to parliamentarians, just by way of transparency, because you deserve to know how they make decisions.