Thank you, Chair.
I'm going to try to keep it pretty simple today, because maybe I'm missing something. If I am, I look forward to an explanation.
The Prime Minister recently said that Canada is “in a stronger position” today than it was a year and a half ago. How are we stronger? I'm looking at the record, and I'm having a little trouble getting there. Let's go through it slowly.
The United States put pressure on Canada over the digital services tax, and Canada dropped the tax. The same thing happened with Canada's retaliatory tariffs. All the elbows-up rhetoric—poof—was gone...not the rhetoric, just the tariffs. The same thing happened with the so-called Netflix tax. There was pressure from the Americans, and we made concessions on that too. I'm not sure about you, Chair, but as a former cop, I see a pattern here.
Then we get to the Gordie Howe bridge, in my riding of Windsor West. This one shouldn't be complicated. Canada paid for the bridge, Canada financed the bridge and Canada built the bridge. It cost $6.4 billion. It's our bridge, our money and our risk.
When the bridge was finished and we were ready to open it, President Trump allegedly got some inducements, as reported by some newspapers in the U.S., from the owner of the Ambassador Bridge, and he said, “Nope, you're not opening the bridge anymore.” He wanted compensation, so Canada went back to the negotiating table.
Apparently, these were the technical issues the Prime Minister talked about when the bridge didn't open in June. Then after the negotiations or technical discussions, we came out with 15 years of payments equal to 50% of defined net revenues going into a U.S.-controlled fund, along with new provisions around the tolls. That's yet another concession. I'm sure we all see the pattern of concessions.
This is the part where I need some help. What did we get? The Americans applied pressure, and we made concessions. What did they give us?
Please don't tell me that we got the bridge open. I'm happy the bridge is open. People in Windsor are happy that the bridge is open, because we already paid $6.4 billion for the bridge. That's like buying a car from a neighbour who owns a dealership, paying cash for it, bringing it home, paying the neighbour every year because he finally agreed to give you the keys, and them coming inside and yelling at your wife, saying, “Hey, I got a great deal.” Nope, you did not. You paid twice.
Tell us this: What did Trump originally want? We know he talked about half ownership. Canada didn't give him that. That is great. We will give credit where it's due. What else did he want? How much revenue did he want, and for how long? What kind of control over the bridge was he looking for? What did Canada say no to or counter with? What did the Americans give up? How did we end up with 50% for 15 years?
These aren't trick questions. This is basic negotiating. What did they want? What did we want? What did they give up? What did we give up? Then we can compare the two. That's it.
Let's follow the money. Canada spent $6.4 billion. How much are the 15 years of payments expected to cost? There has to be a number. You don't negotiate a 15-year financial agreement without doing the math—at least I hope you don't. What's the number? Will this delay Canada's recovery of its investment? It probably will, and if so, for how many years? Will it be five, 10, 15 years or more?
Canada borrowed the money. Canada is carrying the financing debt and the servicing cost for that debt, but when these new payments were calculated, Canada's financing costs weren't deducted the way the Prime Minister claimed they were going to be. Canadians will carry the debt, and somebody else will get the revenue before the debt is accounted for.
Again, who negotiated that? If I lend you the money to build a store, and then you tell me somebody else will get a cut before you repay what you're supposed to owe me, I might have a question or two for you.
Then we get to the 2012 agreement. The new agreement says that the old agreement will stay in place, but President Trump said the old agreement is basically null and void going forward—on the day we had the ribbon-cutting ceremony, no less. Who is right? Is it the Prime Minister or Mr. Trump? More importantly, what did Canada do? Did we call them? Did we write to them? Did we contact Michigan? Did we say, “Hold on. We have an agreement, and we both signed it”? Are we going to go again and renegotiate this now?
These are simple questions. We need answers for them. We need written assurances. If we have written assurances, table them so that the committee and parliamentarians can see them. If not, then why not?
Here's where I'm losing the plot. We made new concessions to get the bridge open. Almost immediately, we're debating whether the original agreement protecting Canada's investment is still secure. What exactly did we settle? This is where the bridge becomes a bigger part of the story. The digital tax was followed by pressure, and Canada backed off. The retaliatory tariffs were followed by pressure, and we backed off again. The Netflix tax got pressure, and we backed off. The bridge was followed by pressure, and Canada backed off again. Now we are facing more tariff threats.
I want to understand the strategy here. Maybe there is one. Explain it, because right now it looks like this: Washington applies pressure, Ottawa caves; Ottawa announces that as being progress; Washington comes back with another demand; Ottawa makes another concession; and then the Prime Minister tells Canadians we are stronger somehow. Stronger how? Are there fewer tariffs? No. Is there more certainty? Not really. Is there better access to the U.S. market? Nope. Is there more security for the auto sector? Nope. Is there more investment? Sadly, no. Is there a more secure CUSMA? You must be kidding.
Just give me one of those things, so I can bring it back home and tell my people, “This is what your Canadian government got for you.” If Canada is stronger, I'd love to see that, based on these strategies and arguments that are being given.
What is the new strategy of the government if things don't change? Is there a plan B? President Trump hasn't exactly been subtle. You don't need binoculars to see him coming. He tells you what he wants. He applies pressure. He threatens tariffs. He waits. Why do we keep acting surprised when he does exactly what he told us he was going to do? It's like me during my policing career when I would pull somebody over for doing 140 in an 80 zone. When I'd hear, “Officer, I didn't realize I was speeding”, I'd say, “Sir, the odometer is right there. You should have looked at it for a change.”
At some point, you have to look at this and say that Canada has leverage. We have energy. We have critical minerals. We have steel, aluminum, autos and manufacturing. American factories depend on Canadian supply chains. American workers depend on this relationship too. Let's use it.
Right now, the government's negotiating posture reminds me of a cheap lawn chair. It looks sturdy sitting there. Then when somebody puts a little pressure on it, it falls immediately. There goes another leg. Somehow, the press release the following day says that the chair is stronger than ever. Nope, it's lying in the grass.
Maybe that's a bit unfair. Maybe our negotiators fought like hell behind closed doors. Maybe the Americans demanded 10 things and Canada stopped nine of them. If that's what happened, tell us. I'll congratulate them personally and say good job. That's exactly what this committee should find out.
If the members opposite shut the study down today, then I have another very simple question: Why? Yes, you have the votes; you can shut us down, but you can't shut down the facts. You can't make the tariffs disappear. You can't make concessions disappear. You can't make the uncertainty disappear. You certainly can't make President Trump disappear.
Closing our eyes doesn't solve the problem. It's like a pigeon sitting in a tree who sees a cat, closes his eyes and pretends the cat has disappeared because he can't see it anymore. The pigeon may feel better, but the cat doesn't really care. It's going to have that pigeon for lunch. That's really my concern: Are we going to be lunch?
I don't want Canada fighting with the people of the United States. They are our neighbours. They are our friends. They are our family. They are our biggest customer. I want the government to succeed with them.
Let's face it. The Americans show up looking for American interests. We should go out there looking for our interests—for our workers and our families, not somebody else's. Our job is to look after our folks, not after the first threat and not after the second concession, but every single time.
Let's make this very simple. Since the Prime Minister took office, what has Canada given up, what has America given up and what has Canada got? If we're really stronger today, just show us. That's all. There's nothing to it. Walk us through it, and we'll be happy with that explanation. That's what I'm looking for.
Thank you.