Evidence of meeting #7 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was office.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Solloway  Commissioner, Office of the Public Sector Integrity Commissioner
Radford  Acting Deputy Commissioner and General Counsel, Office of the Public Sector Integrity Commissioner

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

We're in committee business. He's tabled the motion, so we're debating the motion.

I have a speaking order. I have Ms. Khalid.

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

Thank you, Chair.

I am not able to view the text of the motion. I'm wondering if you can suspend the meeting while you distribute to us paper copies of the motion. I'm not able to access it on my phone at this time.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Perhaps you can share with one of your members.

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

I'd prefer to have my own copy, Chair.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Okay.

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

I would like to also suspend the meeting so that I can discuss this with my colleagues. This is a bit of a surprise. I would have loved advance notice.

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Sure, we could suspend for, say, five minutes.

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

I would prefer 10, Mr. Chair.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

I'll give you five.

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

We'll see. Thank you, Chair.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

It's not a “We'll see.” You don't determine this, Ms. Khalid, and I appreciate your humour with it, but we'll give you five, okay?

We're suspended.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Thank you for your patience, everyone. We are back.

Ms. Sudds, go ahead.

Jenna Sudds Liberal Kanata, ON

I have two points to make.

The first is around your earlier comments about when the minister is coming, if I may. I hadn't had a chance to discuss that. October 23, of course, is great. He can come to kick off that Canada Post study. I believe that both Minister Lightbound and Minister Ali have made themselves available for October 30, and I would—

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

It's for the same hour, though. Normally, we'd get them for one hour and one hour. My understanding is it's for the exact same hour.

Jenna Sudds Liberal Kanata, ON

My understanding is that they had agreed to both come and to split the time.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

It's to split one hour, not two hours.

Jenna Sudds Liberal Kanata, ON

I was under the impression that it was an hour and a half.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

No. It was going to be one hour and 20 minutes and another hour and 20 minutes, which would allow us to get most of the rounds in. I would be happy with one hour and one hour, but not one shared hour or a shared one hour and 20 minutes.

Jenna Sudds Liberal Kanata, ON

That's at the discretion.... My point is it would be better to have him sooner than later. If he's made himself available for October 30, that would be advantageous for all of us to hear from him directly on his mandate, as well as, of course, Minister Ali. That's my first point.

My second point, with respect to the motion, is that it would have been lovely to have advance notice. Obviously, it was translated and ready to go, but regardless, here we are.

I'd like to suggest an amendment to the motion, simply to change the starting date. It has “one meeting to be scheduled no later than October 28”. I would suggest that this study not be started until all witnesses from the Canada Post study have been at committee.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

There is one issue about that. We said that October 23 and October 28 are for Canada Post.

Jenna Sudds Liberal Kanata, ON

That's correct.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Are you saying after October 28? However, there may be other witnesses after that, so—

Jenna Sudds Liberal Kanata, ON

That's correct.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

—for the study, if we have the estimates, we could end up with one day in February.

Jenna Sudds Liberal Kanata, ON

The point is that we had decided to prioritize the Canada Post study, and I don't want to disrupt the flow of witnesses and start this before we have heard from them.