Okay, I'll let you come back to that.
One of the things we see, for example, the CAHA came out with mandatory trainers for every team, so we have them on the benches. The reality is that training program sometimes doesn't provide more than basic first aid. That's a challenge when you're asking somebody who doesn't have the medical background or any type of health care background to all of a sudden assess someone who's been injured on the ice and make that decision. Granted, usually the statement is they should see their family doctor.
As I've mentioned to you earlier, I come from rural Saskatchewan, and we don't have access to those doctors. As you mentioned, all of a sudden, they call you up because they can't run this program because they need a doctor there. Those are big challenges for rural Canada, so we want to make certain that when we talk about things here, we encompass not only the urban settings but also the rural settings.