Evidence of meeting #7 for Subcommittee on Sports-Related Concussions in Canada in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was physician.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Chair  Mr. Peter Fonseca (Mississauga East—Cooksville, Lib.)
Kathryn Schneider  Assistant Professor, Integrated Concussion Research Program, University of Calgary, As an Individual
Cameron Marshall  Founder and President, Complete Concussion Management Inc.
Darren Fisher  Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, Lib.
Robert Kitchen  Souris—Moose Mountain, CPC
Len Webber  Calgary Confederation, CPC
Cheryl Hardcastle  Windsor—Tecumseh, NDP
Doug Eyolfson  Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia—Headingley, Lib.
Shannon Bauman  Medical Director, Lead Physician, Concussion North
Mark Aubry  Chief Medical Officer, Hockey Canada
Todd Jackson  Director, Insurance and Risk Management, Hockey Canada

5:35 p.m.

The Chair Mr. Peter Fonseca (Mississauga East—Cooksville, Lib.)

I call the meeting to order. It's great to have everybody here. This is the Subcommittee on Sports-Related Concussions in Canada of the Standing Committee on Health.

Today we have limited time. There may be votes coming up in the House. We have asked the members for consent that we would all leave to go and vote five minutes before the vote. This will give our witnesses as much time as possible.

Joining us today is Ms. Kathryn Schneider, an assistant professor with the integrated concussion research program at the University of Calgary, and Dr. Cameron Marshall, the founder and president of Complete Concussion Management Inc.

Welcome to both of you. We appreciate it.

Ms. Schneider, you have time to make your opening statement, followed by Dr. Marshall. Then we'll go right into questioning from the members.

5:35 p.m.

Dr. Kathryn Schneider Assistant Professor, Integrated Concussion Research Program, University of Calgary, As an Individual

Thanks so much for the invitation to present to the group today on behalf of the integrated concussion research program at the University of Calgary.

Concussion is one of the most common injuries suffered by children, adolescents and young adults, with an estimated 250,000 concussions occurring each year in Canada. While the majority of individuals recover in the days to weeks following concussion, up to 30% suffer symptoms and functional difficulties that last for more than one month.

Concussion can lead to reduced participation in sport and recreational activities, increase the risk of overweight and obesity, and ultimately increase the risk of chronic disease. Alternatively, staying physically active across the lifespan has many known benefits. Ultimately, the collaborative aim of our program is to minimize the public health impact of concussion across the lifespan through scientific discovery and evidence-informed practice and policy regarding concussion.

The ICRP is a university-wide initiative at the University of Calgary that includes experts from kinesiology, arts and the Cumming School of Medicine, with support from the Alberta Children's Hospital Research Institute and the Hotchkiss Brain Institute. Concussion is a heterogeneous injury, and an interdisciplinary approach is imperative. For example, we we have many different researchers and clinicians who work together, each of whom have different areas of expertise as part of our collaborative team. Many of our researchers are also clinicians and collaborate to answer critical questions, thus creating a very unique environment and leading to groundbreaking research and clinical work.

The research success and impact at the University of Calgary is also a testament to our strong and sustained clinical, community, industry, education and sport partnerships; national and international collaboration; and our robust training and education programs for the generation of researchers in concussion. The ICRP addresses concussion across the spectrum of injury and includes critical research questions related to prevention, diagnosis, prognosis, mechanism of injury and rehabilitation. I will share with you a couple of highlights of our research program.

With regard to prevention, ultimately, if we can prevent concussions from happening in the first place, we will decrease the public health burden from concussion. Over a decade of concussion prevention research and sustained partnerships with the hockey community—including Hockey Canada, Hockey Calgary, B.C. Hockey and others—has characterized the work of my colleague Dr. Carolyn Emery, chair of the sport injury prevention research centre at the University of Calgary.

As a result of her work, an evidence-informed bodychecking policy change occurred nationally in 2013. A 70% reduction in the risk of concussion was found following a national bodychecking policy change disallowing bodychecking in the peewee age group, which is 11- and 12-year-olds. This translates to an estimated reduction per year of 580 concussions in Alberta and 4,800 concussions in Canada among 11- and 12-year-olds alone. She was also the lead author on the systematic review evaluating the prevention of concussion that informed the fifth international consensus on concussion in sport.

Another example of policy change that's been informed by our research was also presented at the fifth international consensus conference on concussion in sport in the sport of volleyball. One of my undergraduate students, Derek Meeuwisse, worked with Volleyball Canada on a survey that showed that 15% of concussions were actually happening in the warm-up, when players ran under the net to go and get the ball. Volleyball Alberta made a rule change to no longer allow players to run under the net. That was subsequently instituted by Volleyball Canada at the youth national championships last year and will be done again this year. That's the largest youth sport competition, with over 10,000 volleyball athletes.

Speaking more recently, Dr. Emery is the lead principal investigator on a pan-Canadian research program funded by the NFL scientific advisory board. Collaborating with 17 ICRP researchers at the University of Calgary, 25 researchers from nine other Canadian universities, sport organizations, educators and multidisciplinary clinical teams at each site, we will complete a research program entitled “SHRED concussions”, or surveillance in high school to reduce concussions and their consequences. The pan-Canadian research program will enrol 6,000 students participating in high-risk concussion sports in 60 high schools from five provinces across Canada, and will follow them for three years. The research will target the prevention, detection, diagnosis, prognosis and management of sport concussion in youth.

On diagnosis, researchers at the University of Calgary are evaluating new tools to diagnose concussion, including novel neuroimaging, robotics and fluid biomarkers.

On prognosis, a multidisciplinary research team is working to identify factors that will predict prolonged recovery following concussion in children to inform targeted treatment strategies that will reduce the consequences of concussion. Dr. Yeates leads that program, an A-CAP study.

On mechanism, there are many innovations across animal and human models that will inform mechanisms of concussion and recovery.

On rehabilitation, our group works collaboratively to identify and optimize the management of concussion. Some of the research I have led has shown that youth and young adults who are treated with a combination of treating the neck and the balance systems were 10 times more likely to get medically cleared to return to sport within an eight-week time period compared with the people who weren't treated.

Other examples include evaluation of physical activity and sleep therapies to assist with recovery from concussion. We have a number of different studies looking at combinations of treatment as well.

I led the research for the systematic review on the effects of rest and treatment that informed the 5th consensus on concussion in sport.

We're also working with Alberta Health Services' strategic clinical networks, with funding through Alberta Health Services and Brain Canada, and with Dr. Keith Yeates, who leads our integrated concussion research program and is testing the effectiveness of a clinical pathway for pediatric concussion in the emergency department. The pathway includes a novel web portal that families can use to obtain evidence-based information about concussion and to track recovery.

Other highlights include leading the development of a massive, open online course in concussion. I checked on my way here today. We have over 4,200 people registered so far. We also have a number of our program group who were involved in the 5th international consensus on concussion in sport. I was part of the scientific committee, and we'll be doing so again for the 6th consensus. Dr. Emery and I led two of the systematic reviews and we've been involved in tools that were outputs from the meeting, such as the concussion recognition tool and the SCAT5.

5:40 p.m.

Mr. Peter Fonseca (Mississauga East—Cooksville, Lib.)

The Chair

Thank you very much, Ms. Schneider.

We're going to move over to Dr. Cameron Marshall.

5:40 p.m.

Dr. Cameron Marshall Founder and President, Complete Concussion Management Inc.

Thank you, Chair.

I want to say what an honour and privilege it is to be here today. I would also like to thank the committee for the opportunity to speak with you today on a topic that is both my passion and my life's work.

My name is Dr. Cameron Marshall. I'm a practising sports specialist chiropractor from Oakville, Ontario. I'm also a published concussion researcher, executive board member of Brain Injury Canada and the founder and president of Complete Concussion Management, a network of specially trained staff in over 250 concussion treatment and rehabilitation clinics across Canada. I'm also a former athlete, playing both junior hockey and lacrosse for Western University.

The very fact that this committee exists speaks well of the Government of Canada's understanding of the importance of concussions as a risk factor for the health and well-being of Canadians. Continuing efforts on the part of government officials, coaches, teachers and health care professionals are succeeding in raising awareness about the importance of concussions.

Founded more than five years ago, Complete Concussion Management is currently the largest single provider of concussion care in Canada. We now see more than twice as many concussions each year as the top 11 pediatric and emergency departments combined. Each day, more than 100 Canadians visit one of our partner clinics for concussion-related issues. This year, CCMI will treat close to 7,000 concussions, and since our care is covered by secondary health insurance, we'll save our provincial health care systems $30 million in 2019 alone.

We also collect, store and analyze this data through our secure electronic database system. This Canadian-built universal EMR system, specially designed for concussion care, is currently, if not the largest, one of the largest concussion databases in the world and is currently being used to conduct research with five Canadian universities.

Seventy-one per cent of the concussion patients we see are under the age of 25, and 57% of their injuries are related to organized sport. Complete Concussion Management currently works with more than 300 youth sports organizations across Canada and are the preferred concussion care providers for more than 50,000 youth athletes.

Yes, there's an app for that, too. The concussion tracker smartphone application walks a coach or sideline therapist through a brief injury-reporting form, instructing them on key things to look for. Once the injury report is complete, notifications are sent to every other sport, team, coach, teacher and trainer associated with that athlete. Medical clearance letters are scanned by the app and shared with all stakeholders associated with the athlete. Constant and automated communication is paired with appropriate documentation and tracking so that nothing falls through the cracks.

A few weeks ago, Mr. Paul Hunter from Rugby Canada stated to this panel that if there were an app that could report injuries across sports, it would be an absolute deal maker. The CCMI concussion tracker app does exactly this, and we have now made it free for all schools and sports programs in Canada.

A few weeks ago, Dr. Roger Zemek reported to the committee that the number of people with concussions presenting to Ontario physicians' offices and emergency departments has quadrupled in the past 10 years. According to the Ontario Neurotrauma Foundation, the average wait time to see a physician in Ontario is 18 days and to see a neurologist, 250 days. These results demonstrate some inherent limitations of our health care system to deal with this rapidly growing problem.

As such, Complete Concussion Management went about tackling this problem a little differently. We trained licensed physiotherapists and chiropractors to work alongside family physicians for co-management and to improve patient accessibility. Physiotherapists and chiropractors are licensed and regulated health care professionals who have concussion diagnosis and management within their licensed scope of practice.

Over the past seven years the scientific evidence has pointed towards the use of physical exertion testing as a way of establishing physiologic recovery from concussion and preventing premature return to play. As we now know, it is the repeated concussions that ultimately do the most damage and are the single biggest issue in sports-related concussions. Specially trained physiotherapists and chiropractors have the skills, time and equipment to run these necessary tests and assist with the safe return to sport.

As a result, 30% of our patients are now directly referred from family physicians and emergency departments who don't have the equipment or time necessary to run these essential tests. In our experience, the formation of local collaborative multidisciplinary networks of trained health care professionals supports the provision of a high standard of evidence-based best practices concussion care in both urban and rural areas of Canada.

Once again, I am honoured to be able to address you today and I look forward to answering any questions you may have so that we can continue to work together to improve concussion care in this country.

Thank you.

5:45 p.m.

Mr. Peter Fonseca (Mississauga East—Cooksville, Lib.)

The Chair

Thank you, Dr. Marshall.

Now we're going to be going to the members for questions and answers.

As you can see, the lights are flashing. We have about 30 minutes until our vote. I think we're only going to have time for one round, and we're going to start it with Mr. Fisher from the Liberals.

5:45 p.m.

Darren Fisher Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, Lib.

Thank you both for being here. I suspect you've both been following along. It has been eye-opening and jaw-dropping for us on the committee, and I'm sure much of it has been just regular data that you're very well aware of. Thank you for being here.

Dr. Schneider, I'm thrilled by this online course you have. I'm blown away by the fact that you have 4,200 people signed up.

One thing I want to ask you is how you are doing your outreach. Will the coach of a Dartmouth Whalers peewee A house league team know about this? How would they find out about it, and would they be welcome?

5:45 p.m.

Assistant Professor, Integrated Concussion Research Program, University of Calgary, As an Individual

Dr. Kathryn Schneider

That's a great question. Our goal with this massive open online course on concussion, the MOOC, is to make it appeal to a broad audience. Everyone is welcome. We also want different stakeholders because that facilitates some great discussion. Our goal is to take the research evidence, a lot of which is very much aligned with the 5th international consensus from Berlin, and help disseminate it to the general public, to people who are stakeholders in different areas.

We also have a reflective process where they look at how it applies to their own area, and whether they want to look at developing policy within their local area or their sport organization. There is help with tools and reflective documents for that. There's also the opportunity to have a discussion online with me and with Dr. Pierre Frémont, who was here last week. We're co-teaching the course.

Dr. Frémont has done a very successful MOOC on concussion in French. He approached our group and said, “I think you guys are the right people to adapt this to English and I think there's a need for it.”

We've had a very large amount of interest from multiple different stakeholders. I've been in contact with a lot of different people since we announced it a couple of weeks ago.

5:50 p.m.

Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, Lib.

Darren Fisher

It's incredible. The fact that you have 4,200 registrations really speaks highly of you.

I think about my son who turns 18 tomorrow and his minor hockey career, and the fact that I don't think we as parents or the coaches or managers of the team back in the novice days had any clue about any of this stuff. I'm very happy that there has been what seems to be a steep learning curve for people.

I wonder about the retraining of the coach who maybe coached my son in novice, who's still coaching now. In your opinion, has there been, along the way, the ability to pick up information on concussions, whether it's diagnosis, management or even the more difficult one, prevention?

5:50 p.m.

Assistant Professor, Integrated Concussion Research Program, University of Calgary, As an Individual

Dr. Kathryn Schneider

There has been great interest in the area of concussion. We did see a lot of increase in reporting after 2011-12, when we saw Sidney Crosby have a concussion. There has also been a lot more interest in what we can do to prevent them, because I don't want my players to be out, and a lot more concern about doing the right thing and getting back at the right time. There's that desire.

One thing that has also been really helpful for coaches is knowing the “recognize and remove” piece, and then to refer to a health care professional who can perform that assessment from a follow-up standpoint. There have been some great initiatives in the hockey world, and many other sports as well, to help disseminate that information, which is great.

It really is a team that works together, from a sport, science and health perspective.

5:50 p.m.

Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, Lib.

Darren Fisher

That's very encouraging.

Dr. Marshall, you talked about your app. It's incredible. You're a for-profit business, so tell me about how you've made this app free for schools. You said, it was free for “schools and sports programs in Canada”, so not minor hockey leagues per se.

5:50 p.m.

Founder and President, Complete Concussion Management Inc.

Dr. Cameron Marshall

Yes, it's for hockey, soccer or any sport.

The app that we originally had was tied—

5:50 p.m.

Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, Lib.

Darren Fisher

This is new, right? The fact that you've made this free is really recent.

5:50 p.m.

Founder and President, Complete Concussion Management Inc.

Dr. Cameron Marshall

Yes. We just did that.

It has always been free, but it has been tied to our clinics. We have a network of 250 clinics and they work with the local sporting group.

Originally the way the app worked was that if an injury was reported, it automatically notified the other sport that the person is involved in, because we found that the communication lines were getting dropped. If an injury happens in hockey, the soccer coach doesn't find out about it. We've heard that concern raised in this committee throughout the process.

The app that we developed originally was just tied into our clinics, because we had no other way, really. If they go to their family doctor or a different clinic, we don't know what's going on at that point.

Just this past year, we've revamped it now to include that, so if a patient comes into one of our clinics and wants to utilize that avenue, the app will communicate with them each step along the way. If they happen to go to a different health care provider who may not be within our network, let's say a family or sports medicine physician, that health care professional can manage that case.

When the athlete comes back with their clearance letter to return to sport, the coach can scan a copy of it, using the app, and then share that letter with every other coach and trainer so that everyone now has a copy of it and everyone knows what's going on with this particular athlete. They can't lie to their coach. They can't sneak on.

5:50 p.m.

Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, Lib.

Darren Fisher

That's incredible.

Going back to what I asked Dr. Schneider, how do you do outreach? How do I let the Cole Harbour Wings know about that program and that the app is free for them?

5:50 p.m.

Founder and President, Complete Concussion Management Inc.

Dr. Cameron Marshall

We're trying our best, obviously, to get that message out.

5:50 p.m.

Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, Lib.

Darren Fisher

If you reach out to our office, we could try to help.

5:50 p.m.

Founder and President, Complete Concussion Management Inc.

Dr. Cameron Marshall

Okay, I will do that.

5:50 p.m.

Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, Lib.

Darren Fisher

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

5:50 p.m.

Mr. Peter Fonseca (Mississauga East—Cooksville, Lib.)

The Chair

Just as a plug for the app, what's its name?

5:50 p.m.

Founder and President, Complete Concussion Management Inc.

Dr. Cameron Marshall

It's called the Complete Concussion Management concussion tracker. We use the term CCMI.

5:50 p.m.

Mr. Peter Fonseca (Mississauga East—Cooksville, Lib.)

The Chair

We'll go over to the Conservatives now.

Dr. Kitchen.

5:55 p.m.

Robert Kitchen Souris—Moose Mountain, CPC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I'm going to stay on this topic, because it's one that has piqued my interest.

Dr. Marshall, thank you very much for being here today.

As you mentioned, we've discussed throughout how to take the information from one sport and put it to another. It sounds from your testimony as though we could entail all of that here, also because it goes from community-based minor hockey and minor soccer all the way up to junior levels. I know your organization is involved across the country with junior hockey teams, in particular one of my own junior hockey teams, for which I was team doctor for many years.

With that said and my putting on my doctor hat, can you explain to the committee how the issue of privacy is contained within your app so that we have assurances of that protection?

5:55 p.m.

Founder and President, Complete Concussion Management Inc.

Dr. Cameron Marshall

Privacy is something we've taken extremely seriously since the genesis of our entire system.

The way the app works is by having one file for one athlete. Some of the other technologies out there might have different set-ups for different sports, and that's why they don't communicate. We've done one file for one athlete.

The way it works is that when they register for our system, they get a number. They're de-identified right from the get-go. If a coach goes to add that athlete, they don't know them by name. They have to add their number. The only way they can get that number is by the athlete's handing it to them. It's almost like a credit card-type of transaction. Once the coach adds that athlete, the athlete has to confirm and accept that the coach may see some of their information.

The only medical information that is passed is their current injury status. We don't know what happened during their medical examination. We don't know what happened even when the injury was reported. The only person who knows that is the person who filed the report. The other coaches will know that there has been a report filed, but they can't access that report.

The only thing that is shared—and only by consent from the athlete, which they or their guardian can remove at any time—is purely their injury status. It's either injured and not yet allowed to return to practice, injured and allowed to return to non-contact practice, or fully cleared and ready to go.

5:55 p.m.

Souris—Moose Mountain, CPC

Robert Kitchen

This is shared throughout the whole multidisciplinary spectrum of professionals; is that correct?

5:55 p.m.

Founder and President, Complete Concussion Management Inc.