I'd like to add a couple of points to that.
There's a real poverty in analysis around this issue of food taxing that I think has been created by some reporters who provocatively refer to this idea of junk food taxes or fat taxes. I think the Canadian Medical Association put it right in their testimony to the finance committee last week when they talked about, as we talk about, examining goods and services tax rules to make sure they reflect healthy eating.
A question you might ask the finance officials or ask your constituents is whether they think it's a good idea that we tax salads at the grocery store and in the restaurants. Is that a good idea? Is that promoting good health? There may be some convoluted way of imagining that it is, but quite simply, I can't see it.
If I may comment on what Mr. Trueman from the Department of Finance said about waiting for education to work, well, I'm a big believer in education, but we have to realize that, as I said earlier, these are real dollars that we're losing in diet-related diseases. They're real lives that are ending prematurely--tens of thousands a year, billions of dollars a year. We know that education is not a complete cure, but it works to some extent, and if we can do other things to assist it, such as stopping the taxing of fruits and vegetables, I think it is incumbent on us to do it.