I'll start with the last.
I can categorically tell you that when this food guide comes out there will be criticism, because this is such a complex file with such diverging views. There will be criticism because it's impossible to meet everyone's needs.
But I'm so glad you asked this question, because when you said...but you would be frustrated too, if you had opinions and those opinions weren't listened to. That's the crux of this issue. No one you've heard from knows whether we've listened to what they had to say or not because no one has seen what we've done with the consultation evidence that's come to us. I can sit before you and say categorically that there was nothing said to us that wasn't carefully considered.
You asked about energy, the 25% from foods that are outside the food guide. The chairman himself said he didn't like our food guide because we weren't going to be providing him with ice cream, cake, and cookies--and he's right. Those are foods, and that's the challenge. And one of the challenges you people have is that we all live in a society that has so evolved in terms of its food supply that you can't even go to Home Hardware without running into food. It is omnipresent--365, 24/7. And the food guide is trying to make its way in to tell you that healthy eating means changes in what you're eating.
As for the recommendations and the advisory committee minutes, we've already brought forward all of those. We saw that you wanted them; we've put them forward. They're out of our office and into the department to come to you so that you can see precisely who said what about what, and what it looks like. It will be there.
On the issue of bringing you a copy, I can say only that your request goes to the Minister of Health. It's not mine to bring. It's not mine to say yes; it's not mine to say no. You're tabling that you would like to see a copy, and it's beyond the authority of this table here to say yea or nay, because it's not part of the process that's under way. That's a decision for the department to make.